'IPL has substantial piece of digital revenue & it would have been worth it at right cost'

During the HT Media Group- Q2 FY 2021-22 earnings webinar, HT Media Group CFO Piyush Gupta spoke about company performance in Q2 and HMVL’s bid for an IPL team

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Published: Nov 19, 2021 8:45 AM  | 6 min read
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During the HT Media Group- Q2 FY 2021-22 earnings webinar, HT Media Group CFO Piyush Gupta, spoke about the company performance in Q2 and HMVL’s bid for an IPL team. “Capital allocation is something that the board consider to diversify the streams of revenue,” Gupta said while answering the question about HMVL’s bid for an IPL team during the Q2 FY 2021-22 earnings webinar. 

Gupta further explained, “Our bid was, of course, an unsuccessful bid and we obviously fixed our financial box, very clear understanding that if it comes for rational thing whereby we can have a long term sustainable returns for the shareholder and this obviously is a very long-term contract, then we would have gone for it. Because it didn't come for it, it went to what we believe is an irrational territory, we did not go forward. Having said that you have to understand the diversification journey that we were trying to do in HMVL was to drive the non-print revenues for a very long period of time. The revenues in IPL are driven primarily by broadcast revenues and other sponsorship revenues which don't have a direct correlation with the cyclicality of the print revenues.”

He further added, “At the right price, had that happened, and also the third leg that I am forgetting in that whole bid is it is not just the broadcast revenue, it has a very substantial piece of digital revenue also building into it, but if you would get that it the right cost that would still have been worth it and the board, in its best governance, thought that we should put in a bid. At the right bidding price provided we would have bought it, this would have been good, but right now we've not got it so it is water under the bridge.”

When enquired to get some perspective on what was the board’s thought in bidding for an IPL team when the group has only 1300 crores on books, Gupta said, “The IPL bidding document said the bidding amount was to be paid on a straight line in the next 10 years. So there was not a straight-up payment, so that's one fundamental difference, the way you are calculating from the reserves and equity and also from our results point of view. What you are not counting is AFE book, you know and at least half of that is reasonably liquid, which is in real estate that can also be deployed. But there was no question of putting upfront 1000-1500 crores and taking away all the resources. All these payouts to BCCI were as per the bidding documents was staggered equally over the 10 years. Then we took the estimate of the broadcasting rights, our IRR expectations were set, and we were basically creating IRR, which is north of what we are seeing right now. Had we brought it for that number, it would have been a very good adjacency to a media business. But if you don't get that for your bidding price then IRR would have fallen massively and hence we kind of opted out, and we did not revise our bid. That's the long and short of it, but obviously, we're not betting the farm on this thing by pulling Debt etc, because that payment was not to be made upfront.” 

Questioned about the investment plans and returns, Gupta highlighted that from HMVL, the company hasn't done too many investments in the past five years. “If I may draw your attention to that, we are trying to incubate a few new products, etc, in this year, and you would have seen the unallocated segment that we have reported. Because the markets are changing so rapidly, as they are changing, we are trying to create products that basis the demand that we are seeing is coming from the market can create a new revenue stream. And that's the whole intent, from HMVL, I don't think we've invested heavily in the last five years, this was an intent to do some rational diversification, which obviously was not rational, as we found out and hence, we are still sitting on cash, I would love to deploy tomorrow, but just for haste I don't think we should be making a decision which we might repent later on.”

On the recovery front, Gupta believes that the pricing in the market is soft. Volumes have nearly recovered and in some places, they actually exceeded the pre-covid volumes but prices are soft at this point, he said. While explaining the nature of recovery, Gupta noted that around 10 to 15 categories which constitute about 80 to 90% of ad revenue that come in the Hindi publication, indeed, also in the English publication. “Now, at various points in time, if you analyze them, there are some categories which are under stress and some which are firing. Now if you see over the last two three quarters, auto as a sector because of either chip shortage or commodity prices have been under shortage, so you know they would therefore hold back a little, but, as you can see, there are a lot of new age, companies and start-ups and their IPO, etc, which have been coming, so I would not like to believe, I mean, even if we analyze our categories, I think this is a reasonably broad-based recovery, some categories, of course, are still not firing I believe, structurally, they will come back as their business model start cranking.” 

He further added, “Autos I read that they are reasonably stocked up for whatever input raw materials they required so I am hoping that will come back. So I believe it's a reasonably broad-based recovery that will sustain itself and, of course, with the cost actions that were taken last year, if we virtually reach about 100% per cent or beyond this thing, the operating leverage will impact the bottom line right straight away, and then we will be in a much better shape.”

Gupta believes that the H2 of this year will be better than the H2 of last year. “The only wild card at this point in time is the commodity prices because the newsprint prices compared to the same period last year, are at least 25 to 30% higher, which definitely will impact the bottom line. But if the categories on the revenue side which I am hoping will come back, if they come back, I think we will be in better shape than what we were in H2 last year.”

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BW Businessworld releases latest issue on Amul’s inflection point

The issue also has an additional summer special spin-off

By exchange4media Staff | May 23, 2023 8:20 AM   |   4 min read

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In the recent issue of BW Businessworld releasing on June 3, 2023, takes a tour of India’s largest dairy processor and well-renowned household name, Amul. It explores the inflection point of Amul as it carries out its non-dairy food segment and is expected to generate a revenue up to Rs 1,00,000. To understand the vitality of the situation and the growth forward, BW Businessworld team travelled to the Milk Capital of India, Anand which is a home to the Gujarat Co-operative Milk Marketing Federation (GCMMF).

A Movement Of Exclusiveness

In an exclusive conversation with BW Businessworld, Jayen Mehta, the newly appointed managing director of Amul throws light on why the targeted revenue does not seem daunting for the brand. He further explains that since the dairy sector is swiftly becoming more organised, a shift towards the non-dairy food segment is likely to accelerate as consumers today are more health conscious, especially the younger generation. However, beyond the dairy sector, there is an inflection point for Amul as it now seeks to turn into an all-foods company. The various product launches in the past three years in the non-dairy segment and the expansion it reflected, Mehta seems optimistic about Indian consumers’ kitchen items to soon be of the brand, Amul, be it either organic or dairy products.

The latest issue also presents Amul’s past attempts to expand beyond dairy and value-added dairy products and how they collapsed to make a mark in the market. In this issue, BW Businessworld comes across understanding of what will be different this time and what shall we expect from Amul in the near future.

Largely, this issue also explores India’s substantial milk economy dynamic and the government’s thrust to boost milk production and whether it will bring a second White Revolution.

Summer Special Spin-off

The recent issue ‘The Summer Kings’, showcases a special feature on the summer season. We engaged with R.K. Singh, Union Minister of Power, New and Renewable Energy, to take stock of India’s preparation to address the rising demand of power this season. For the same, Singh highlights that the growing power demand is the definite indicator of India’s economic growth.

Nonetheless, the issue also features a rapid growth of sunscreens in the Indian market in this scorching heat of the summer, and how new-age brands have been drawn towards the sun protection market as it has become one of the highest and fastest growing in the skincare segment in the country.    

The issue also focuses upon the Indian meteorological department, predicting a hot and oppressive summer to which the team of BW Businessworld spoke to some of India’s biggest air conditioner manufacturers. B. Thiagarajan of Blue Star, Kanwal Jeet Jawa of Daikin, Manish Sharma of Panasonic Life Solutions India, among others, shares their plans to address consumer demand and their marketing playbook to reach out to them. A much weightage is given into smart solutions using AI and IoT based platform to offer comfort and convenience to its customers. 

In addition, this issue captures focus on sustainable architecture as sustainability has become central to everyone today. Special attention has been given to sustainable architecture to understand the practicalities of developing sustainable buildings in India.

Moreover, the latest issue also gives a special focus on building resilience in the era of uncertainty by Tiger Tyagarajan, President & CEO of Genpact, in its ‘Last Word’ column, aiming at what business leaders today need to concentrate on to navigate the current economic challenges. 

Click here to view the entire story of BW Businessworld on ‘India’s Best Kept FMCG Secret’ with Amul along with an additional summer special spin-off.

About BW Businessworld 

BW Businessworld, with its 43 years of legacy, is the fastest growing 360 degree business media house in India. With a network spanning across 23 niche business communities and 10 magazines, BW Businessworld is proud to be entrenched in various verticals in the domestic as well as global business, that organize conferences and forums to facilitate interaction between sectoral business leaders and create a conducive environment for collaboration. All BW issues are also fully digitally covered, including online stories and video stories and eMagazine is also available for every issue.

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Do not go by speculation in media about company’s reorganization: Times Group to employees

The group has released a statement internally to its key management saying speculations about the split in the business are incorrect

By exchange4media Staff | May 21, 2023 5:29 PM   |   1 min read

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A day after the media reported details of Samir Jain and Vineet Jain splitting the Times Group business, the group released a statement internally to its key management calling the speculations incorrect.

The communication from BCCL’s Company Secretary Kausik Nath read: “As the KMP of the company, it is my duty to inform that employees should not go by speculation in the media about the reorganization of the company. Please be notified that social media has been speculative and incorrect.”

As per media reports, Samir Jain is likely to get hold of the entire Print businesses of the conglomerate and Vineet Jain is expected to occupy Broadcast, Radio Mirchi, Entertainment (ENIL), and other businesses.

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Vineet Jain: The media scion who drove Times Group's expansion

A look into the junior Jain brother's 36-year-long journey within the Times Group

By exchange4media Staff | May 21, 2023 2:02 PM   |   2 min read

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Vineet Jain, the younger of the Jain brothers who inherited the Times Group after the death of their mother Indu Jain, will now be handling the TV, digital and entertainment business of the media conglomerate.

Born in Kolkata in 1964 to Ashok and Indu Jain, the 59-year-old Vineet joined the Times Group in 1987, more than a decade after his elder brother Samir Jain entered the business.

A graduate of the American College of Switzerland, Vineet was soon the Managing Director of  Bennett, Coleman & CO, which was at that time being run by his father Ashok Jain and brother Samir, who was the Vice Chairman of the company.

Vineet has been the driving force behind the diversification and expansion of what began as a traditional publishing business under the flagship Times of India. Under his vision and leadership, the Times Group expanded its wings across the media spectrum – be it internet, radio, music, news television, OTT,  or out-of-home.

He was named Impact Person of the Year in 2013.

With this development, after 36 years of his stint as the MD of Times Group, Vineet will occupy Broadcast, Radio Mirchi, Entertainment (ENIL), and other businesses such as Filmfare, Femina, their event IPs along with their respective online editions (clubbed under Times Internet Ltd).

Vineet will also retain ET Money and the OTT platform MX Player, broadcast, digital and entertainment part of the business. 

His elder brother Samir holds the entire Print business of the conglomerate like Times of India, Economic Times, and language papers like Navbharat Times and Vijay Karnataka along with their online editions. 

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Samir Jain: A pioneer in media business

A concise profile of the elder Jain brother who is expected to head the print business of the Times Group

By exchange4media Staff | May 21, 2023 1:42 PM   |   2 min read

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Samir Jain (69) the long-standing Vice-chairman and Managing Director of Bennett Coleman & Co Ltd is expected to head the print business of the Times Group.
Samir was born in New Delhi on 11th March 1954 to the Sahu Family. After completing his B.A at St. Stephen’s College, he quickly joined the family-owned Bennett, Coleman & Co. Ltd in 1975 as a junior executive. Then in 1982, he became the vice-chairman and started running the company himself as his father retired. Throughout the 80s, Samir became a huge name in the media sector and started giving special attention to his company’s marketing initiatives. He became a champion of ad businesses and made the Times of India one of the largest circulating newspapers in the country. He was also one of the first people to dispense off with the Editor title.
Samir is married to Meera Jain and is father to Trishla Jain, who is an artist. The liberalisation policy in 1991 greatly impacted him and his idea of media business. He is also known to be spiritually inclined and spends months in Haridwar with his guru, meditating and chanting. In the last six months, Samir has taken to stage on many events to talk about India’s growing economy, the strength in divergent viewpoints and spiritual India amongst other topics.
Along with his brother Vineet Jain, he ran Bennett Coleman & Co till present. Both will be taking key positions in the company.

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Three key men who were present at the historic Times Group MoU signing

Two BCCL officials and a top biz leader played a critical role in the settlement and were present when the MoU was signed

By exchange4media Staff | May 20, 2023 9:40 PM   |   3 min read

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When warring brothers Samir and Vineet Jain finalized the historic partition of one of India’s largest media conglomerates - Times Group-in Delhi by signing an MoU on Thursday, only three men were present on the occasion.

They were - Puneet Dalmia of Dalmia Bharat, Subramanian Narayanan and Sivakumar Sundaram, both top executives of BCCL - who are believed to have helped Samir and Vineet Jain to part ways amicably.

The trio can be seen along with Jain brothers in the picture taken during the signing of MoU. 

These leaders, along with a couple of more top biz leaders of India, are credited with shaping up a complex deal and carving out the partition in two equal halves smoothly, something that was acceptable to Samir and Vineet Jain both. 

Exchange4media was the first to report about the MOU’s details along with an exclusive picture earlier on Saturday.

Puneet Dalmia (50), Managing Director at Dalmia Bharat Limited, helped them in coordination and detailing of the negotiations. A gold-medallist MBA from the Indian IIM-B, and a B. Tech. degree from IIT-Delhi, Puneet is considered as one of the finest business leaders in India with an expertise in investment, merger and acquisition. He is admired by both the brothers.

Subramanian Narayanan, Executive Director & Group CFO. at Entertainment Network India Limited (ENIL), who also spearheads merger and acquisition for the group, has been a trusted aide of Vineet Jain for many years. According to Times group insiders, Narayanan has got excellent negotiation skills and has played a crucial role in getting the best deal for Vineet Jain.

Sivakumar Sundaram, Chairman Executive Committee, BCCL, remained part of the negotiations throughout. Sundaram, believed to be from Samir Jain’s side, was present at the time of signing the MoU as well. Sundaram played a key role in shaping up the partition and getting the lion’s share for Samir-entire print portfolio along with online editions, insiders say. Newspapers have been the flagship business of the group, especially Times of India that started 180-years ago, much before the partition of India.

The deal

As per the deal, Samir Jain is going to get a hold of entire Print businesses of the conglomerate along with their online editions.

Vineet Jain will occupy Broadcast, Radio Mirchi, OTT platform MX Player, Entertainment (ENIL), and other businesses such as Filmfare and Femina, people privy to the matter told e4m. Besides, Vineet will receive a cash payout of at least Rs 3,500 Cr from his elder brother to balance out the partition.

“The real estate belonging to the company, which includes various properties and printing press across India, have also been valued and will be divided equally between the two brothers”, people privy to the matter said.

Repeated emails sent to Samir and Vineet Jain and the group’s corporate communications personnel remained unanswered till the time of writing this story.

Photo Caption: L to R Vineet Jain (Blue shirt), Samir Jain (White shirt) on chairs signing the MoU.

Behind: N. Subramaniam (Subbu, yellow shirt), Puneet Dalmia (violet shirt) and Sivakumar Sundaram (pink shirt)

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Times Group: Inside details of the MoU finalized between Samir & Vineet Jain

Sources say that Samir Jain is expected to get the entire Print business along with online titles of all newspapers; Vineet Jain likely to get TV+Radio+Rs 3,500 Cr

By exchange4media Staff | May 20, 2023 6:24 PM   |   5 min read

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The much-awaited MoU of the Times Group is believed to have been finalized on Thursday. Once the deal is finalised Samir Jain is likely to get hold of the entire Print businesses of the conglomerate, including the Times of India, Economic Times and language papers like Navbharat Times and Vijay Karnataka along with their online editions. 

Younger brother Vineet Jain is expected to occupy Broadcast, Radio Mirchi, Entertainment (ENIL), and other businesses such as Filmfare, Femina, the event IPs along with their respective online editions (clubbed under Times Internet Ltd.), highly placed sources have told e4m. Vineet will also retain ET Money and the OTT platform MX Player. 

At present, all online editions along with MX Player are part of the Times Internet Limited, which was a major bone of contention between the Jain brothers. 

Sources add that since the Print businesses of the group are far bigger in terms of revenue, Vineet is likely to receive a cash payout of at least Rs 3,500 crore from his elder brother to balance out the partition. This amount may go up to Rs 5,000 crore depending on various factors.

“The bifurcation of the Bennett Coleman & Co Ltd (BCCL) conglomerate was fine tuned on Thursday at the Lutyens bungalow of the Jain brothers in Delhi. A memorandum of understanding (MoU) in this regard was signed by the duo, followed by a family puja and brothers roping a plant together to signal a fresh beginning,” sources said. 

The MoU needs to be converted into a legal document and top law firm Khaitan & Co is believed to be taking care of the legal technicalities. 

“The real estate belonging to the company, which includes various properties and printing press across India, have also been valued and are expected to be divided equally between the two brothers,” people privy to the matter said. 

Repeated emails sent to Samir and Vineet Jain and the group’s corporate communications personnel remained unanswered till the time of writing this story. 

Times Group officials said on the condition of anonymity that Samir was already handling the print business and Vineet was running TV, Radio and Times Internet. 

University & Investment Arm to be valued later

While most of the entities at Bennett University will be put in an independent trust, it would be run by professional trustees and is believed to be valued later. 

Brand Capital, the strategic investment arm of the Times Group, has not been valued yet. It will too likely be valued and bifurcated later. 

Investors to be roped in 

Samir is believed to have started looking for funds to finance the partition, so that he can pay his younger brother his dues worth Rs 3,500 crore. Both brothers may also rope in more investors for their respective entities, sources said. 

Merger of 5 entities 

The BCCL is also merging five of its subsidiaries - Mind Games Shows Pvt (MGSPL), Ananta Properties Pvt (APPL), Amrita Estates Pvt (AEPL), Times Digital (TDL), Times Journal (TJIL) and Vinabella Media and Entertainment Pvt (VMEPL) - with itself as part of its plan to clean up the company's structure, in accordance with a National Company Law Tribunal order. The NCLT cleared the merger on May 4, effective April 2021. 

Tedious process of partition  

India’s oldest and one of the most influential media companies Times Group (Bennett Coleman and Company Ltd or BCCL) has been facing uncertainty for a long time due to growing differences between the brothers on how to run the businesses. The talks of spilt were going on for about two years. 

Samir is elder to Vineet by 10 years and serves as the vice chairman of BCCL, while Vineet is the managing director. Jain brothers are reportedly distinct from each other when it comes to business acumen, lifestyle and vision for the company. 

People privy to the matter claim that assets of the company underwent an elaborate evaluation process to divide over 70 entities, including the most complex one, Times Internet Ltd (TIL). 

Two mediators were appointed to oversee this auction. This included Sunil Bharti Mittal, the billionaire chairman of telecoms operator Bharti Airtel, and a member of the Dalmia family, which owned BCCL in the 1950s before handing the company over to the Jains. 

Selling of businesses

TIL has been working hard over the past two years to consolidate its business and offload the loss-making entities. 

The company sold the restaurant reservations app Dineout as well as short video platform MX TakaTak in early 2022. It recently sold two of its content websites—MensXP and iDiva—and its creator management vertical Hypp to Mensa Brands. 

It is in the process of selling OTT platform MX Player also which has reportedly been punching a hole in their coffers. The company is now in the talks with Amazon to sell it off at a price which is reportedly less than its acquisition cost. 

Times Internet acquired MX Player in 2018 for an estimated sum of $140 million or Rs 1,000 Cr. “Amazon has offered roughly $60 million, almost half of its purchasing cost,” sources claimed. This is despite the fact that MX Player has been regarded as the most downloaded app in India and third most downloaded in the world in 2022, according to the State of Mobile 2023 report by Data.ai. 

The company’s arm Gradeup has already been merged with Byju’s through NCLT approval, its financial report stated. 

According to media reports, Times Internet has also undergone a shareholding change and stakes held by different Times Group entities and family members were all transferred to BCCL in 2021-22.

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DB Corp posts 25.4% yoy growth in ad revenue for FY2023

Net Profit grew 19% to Rs. 169.1 crore

By exchange4media Staff | May 19, 2023 1:34 PM   |   3 min read

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Print advertising posted a strong year-on-year growth of 27% for FY2023 and 16% for Q4 FY2023, said DB Corp Limited, which posted its financial results for the quarter and the year ended March 31, 2023.

The company’s rise in revenue was helped by strong demand for its print publication and higher growth in advertising income.

The print media company’s consolidated EBIDTA posted strong growth of 34% y-o-y in the fourth quarter.

Compared to FY2022, advertising revenue for the group grew by 25.4% to Rs 1482.7 crore as against Rs 1182.7 crore in FY2023. Total Revenue grew by around 21.2% to Rs. 2168.2 crore as against Rs. 1788.5 crore. Circulation Revenue grew by around 1.5% to Rs. 462.7 crore as against Rs. 455.8 crore.

 EBIDTA grew by 12% to Rs. 361.1 crore as against Rs. 322.8 crore, after considering a forex loss of Rs 5.2 crore, aided by stringent cost control measures, & despite high newsprint prices and large digital business investment for future growth. Net Profit grew 19% to Rs. 169.1 crore as against Rs. 142.6 crore, after considering forex loss of Rs 60 crore.

In the radio business, advertising Revenue grew 20% to Rs. 134.2 crore versus Rs. 112.2 crore. EBITDA grew by 28% to Rs. 40.2 crore (EBITDA margin at 30%) versus Rs. 31.4 crore.

As compared to Q4 of FY2022, the corresponding quarter of this financial year say ad revenue grow by 14.2 % to Rs. 357.8 crore as against Rs. 3,13.4 crore. Total Revenue grew by 13.5% at Rs. 5,44.6 crore as against Rs. 4,79.9 crore. Circulation Revenue stands at Rs. 1,15.3 crore as against Rs. 1,15.2 crore. EBIDTA grew by 34% to Rs. 88.9 crore as against Rs. 66.3 crore aided by stringent cost control measures, & despite high newsprint prices and large digital business investment for future growth. Net Profit grew by 67% at Rs. 41 crore as against Rs. 24.5 crore. Radio business: Ø Advertising Revenue grew by 6% YOY at Rs. 32.2 crore versus Rs.30,3 crore. EBIDTA stands at Rs.8.4 crore versus Rs. 8.2 crore.  

Sudhir Agarwal, Managing Director, DB Corp Ltd said, “While other major economies around the world faced a tough year, the Indian Economy, especially the nonMetro centres, showed great resilience in fiscal 2023. GST Collections in Tier-II and beyond cites have increased by ~15-25% underscoring the strong potential of these markets. Advertisers continue to repose their trust in Print Media, especially in these markets, with new age advertisers also seeing tremendous value in using hyperlocal ad campaigns. Dainik Bhaskar’s editorial strategies and dominant position in these markets has resulted in strong growth of advertising revenues across the board. Our circulation strategy has enabled us to extend our lead as India’s number one Newspaper and Newspaper Group. Our readers are the central focus of all our teams, and we continue to innovate our content, improve our omnichannel platform for delivering truthful, crisp and pertinent content to our loyal reader base. With our strong financial position, we are well-placed to continue the growth trajectory and deliver robust returns to all our stakeholders.”

DB Corp Ltd publishes 5 newspapers with Dainik Bhaskar 43 editions, Divya Bhaskar 8 editions & Divya Marathi 6 editions with 211 sub-editions in 3 multiple languages (Hindi, Gujarati and Marathi) across 12 states in India.

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